On the same note has anyone out there heard about the war being waged in Mexico between drug cartels and the government? Have any of you heard that over 6000 people in that rat whole of a country where killed last year in this war? According to this site in 6 years of war we have lost 4254 troops, but we hear all about the death toll in Iraq and yet nothing about the war at our very door step. In reading the stories about it and looking at the pictures all I can think is that this is a modern day battle with the Gadianton Robbers.
Here are some fun pictures of the Army going to war in thier country. Can't wait for that to come here as well.Two questions for you. What happens to us in the US when this thing goes into a full fledged civil war? Where do the refugees go? How do we car for them when our country can hardly take care of itself at this point?
Next, these are drug cartels right? How about we look for actual solutions such as de-criminalizing drugs like Marijuana? Our country was count in a crime spree during prohibition, once that was done away with crime dropped. Would not the same thing stand a good chance of happening here?What about liberty? Does it hurt you or I if some one drinks beer? If they drink and drive then yes but there are laws for our actions affecting others but if some one smokes pot and doesn't hurt anyone other then themselves what does it matter? We have been fighting a "war on drugs" for almost 30 years and it looks like we are losing, instead of admitting defeat how about we look at the basic premise of the argument and say "taking away people liberty to do with their body's what they want has negative side affects."
I agree with you in theory. However, since we can't live in a full fledged libertarian utopia and instead get stuck with something worse than what exists I have to part ways. What of the long term economic implications of legalizing or "decriminalizing" marijuana? Usually people who smoke pot are lazy or become lazy. They then become a mooch off the system. I believe this is the case, but even if it is not, later on down the road when pot heads retire and then all of a sudden they have to go get a lung implant (not sure if they do that or not, but with stem cell research maybe they will just grow one....) anyways say the get some kind of surgery resulting from bad health in connection with smoking mary-jane, who then pays for it? Well....even now we pay for it through higher insurance premiums to pay for the other knucklheads out there, and we all know Obama-rama is going to drop the big bomb of universal health care on us. Then we will without question be paying for the stoners bad health later on down the road. I say smoke pot if you want to smoke pot, but if you do, M Galt will get stabbed.
ReplyDeleteAllowing people to live how they want is a scary thing GWH. Some of the most productive people I know smoke pot. Our socity takes care of these lazy people you speak of anyways but what we are talking about here is taking out the crime that comes along with it's smuggling like the ones talked about in the post. the social problems
ReplyDeleteHere is my theory on the whole "War on Drugs Thing" first of all it's one of Reagans few failures. Second prohibition only succed's where the whole of society agree said prohibition is neccesary. Obviously alot of people enjoy weed, I have no statistics to back it up, but I can only guess by the amount of trafficking going on. As far as being worried people will do nothing, and become wards of the state have a look around man were all wards of the state now.
ReplyDeleteMy point is you cant "legislate morality' in other words because people are coerced to be "moral" by the law doesnt therefore make a man moral. I man or woman gains morality by having choices and making the correct choice.
This is why the Obama administration will be the worst presidency in history, because he believes in legislating morality.
I'm all for people living the way they want and keep the government out of it so long as one living the way they want does not infringe upon the same rights of another. In my opinion having to pay for another one's health due to their poor health choices infringes upon my rights. That is all I am saying.
ReplyDeleteOf course people should pay for their own health care, that goes without saying. The problem is that your assuming that all pot heads are lazy and and therefore we have to pay for them.
ReplyDeleteThat's all is beside the point of the post, the point is how much money are we spending on a war that clearly we are not winning? If we are not winning the war then maybe we change how we approaches the situation and come at it from a truly;y moral stand point of offering people their choice thereby allowing as Thinderlump says allowing them the opportunity to be really moral through choice.