So, I don't know if some of the fury and outrage has subsided at all since the Tea Party, but we need to keep it up and I hope this photo does it for you. I honestly don't know how much true "Change" we can hope for with the 2010 elections, but we can do what we can do. For myself it'll be one vote each for McCain out of office, Kyl out, and Rep. Flake in. Sorry M. Galt I know you don't like that last one. Furthermore I hope we can get some factual information posted through this blog to assist in being better informed voters. Let's hope for some real change, the good non-Marxist kind!
McCain out but Flake in?! Flake supported McCain in the Elections.
ReplyDeleteFlake voted against the "Bailout" both times. The main reason for my support of him. I don't like that he supported McCain in the elections, but I recognize that I'm not going to ever have a candidate that will see things exactly the same way that I do. If I feel they're around 80% and above in agreement with my perspective then they're worth my support. I'm open though, if you have other reasons to not vote for Flake. Please do share.
ReplyDeleteHow about his continued support of amnesty for illegal immigrants? So he is against wasteful government spending but is for importing the welfare class from Mexico who will soak up our welfare dollars. AKA socialism light.
ReplyDeleteM Galt. Will you post some specific info showing how he has supported amnesty? I'm not questioning whether or not he has, but would simply like to see in what way he has supported it.
ReplyDeleteAll you have to do GWH is go to his web site and check his statements. Here are some gems,
ReplyDelete“There’s a common misconception that the Republican base favors enforcement-only immigration reform, but electoral results don’t bear that out,” said Flake.
“Republicans, like all Americans, are crying out for reform. They know that we need to increase enforcement at the border and workplace, but they also know that enforcement alone isn’t sufficient. We need to pass comprehensive immigration reform.”
“Hopefully, these results in Arizona will convince our leadership in Congress that our enforcement-only strategy could back-fire and prompt them to bring up a comprehensive immigration reform plan.”
http://flake.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=65294
Another one praising bush for trying to push through a temporary worker program.
“Obviously, simply addressing the enforcement side of the issue might be more politically expedient, but you have to salute President Bush for recognizing that we can’t solve the problem without a temporary worker program and insisting that Congress include one as we debate an immigration reform bill.”
http://flake.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=43677
What Flake and every other career politician do not understand is that all we want is the laws to be enforced. Flake however has shown a willingness to bow to his big money downers here in AZ who require large numbers of illegal immigrants to build their homes and clean their yards. There is in Flake a fundamental miss understanding of the rule of law and that to me is unacceptable.
I didn't get that from his statements, other than a call for immigration reform, which I don't disagree with. Obviously I agree with you in that the existing laws need to be enforced otherwise a fundamental disrespect for the law exists and compounds as later generations grow up with no respect for laws because they are not enforced. That said, while enforcing the current laws, immigration reform does need to take place because under the current situation it is essentially hopeless for many to immigrate to the United States and I don't believe it should be so.
ReplyDeleteReform when it comes to illegal immigration tends to be the word de jour for those wishing to relax regulations. There is a fundamental conflict when on one hand someone says that reform needs to take place at the same time as more strict enforcement. This is typical politician speak of I want to show people that I have no real opinion, but I want to appear that I do.
ReplyDeleteI agree that there should be immigration reform in the sense that the system currently seems to punish those wanting legal citizenship while enabling those who choose to break laws to obtain services and shelter through the efforts of others is supported.
In California there were those who wanted to give drivers licenses to illegal aliens as if that was going to solve anything. As long as stuff like that is being discussed I don't feel that reform of the system will be productive. Enforce and protect OUR citizens, then lets discuss reform.
I am not at all for relaxing the immigration situation in this country until we stop being a welfare state. People are welcome to come but they have to offer something to the country. The way it stands Hispanics assimilate much slower then any other ethnic group, have the highest percentage of gang violence and violent crime, they have the highest drop out rate, the highest teen pregnancy rate and these trends do not stop after the first generation. America in may respects has become a welfare state, this can not work with open immigration, people will come for the handouts just like many of them do right now.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_53.htm
In addition when we understand the rhetoric coming out of Mexico we see that not only does the government advocate the draining of American money as their second largest forum of national income but they advocate the "Reconquista" or the reclaiming of land they believe belongs to Mexico.
By avoiding the reality of the immigration situation Flake shows his naivety or purposely negligent position in this matter. One of the few true functions of government is to protect out laws and our boarders, neither of which he has shown himself willing to do. I dare you to find how Flake's position differs from any liberal democrat who you claim to hate on this subject. The line is a simple one to draw for any politician, all they need to say is "we have laws regarding immigration, I will enforce those laws." Once they have shown themselves willing to comply to those that we already have what reasonable idea do we have that they will follow the new ones they make up? If we do believe them then we get what we ask for.
Further Flake is a career politician working his whole life in political organizations and studying to be a politician in collage. This for me throws up a number of red flags as he has, as far as i can tell from his own information run anything outside of government in his whole life. This would make it extremely difficult to understand what the people actually want and need.
Lastly I hate his campaign posters, why doesn't he just make a sign that says "vote for me, I'm Mormon like you"
Thank you M Galt. A well thought out and well informed response. James, yours is again......well, again I have to say it, I don't know if you need glasses for your brain, but you appear to read the words and then construct an alternate meaning for them in your mind. I'm not trying to re-bring up past hashed "arguments" but it really makes it difficult to even want to address your posting and have a conversation/discussion with you because again you seem to construct your own meaning with a 180 degree difference from what the person posting actually stated. Bottom line.... it's frustrating. I really take it as an insult to myself when someone doesn't understand something that I'm trying to say, because it means that I am not communicating clearly enough. Enforcement of the existing immigration laws is an absolute must. At the same time I believe as I am entitled to my own opinion, that reform of the existing laws to make them more feasible for proper and healthy immigration should take place. M Galt, your point showing statistics of Mexicans illegally immigrating to the United States is of utmost concern to this country and I couldn't agree more that in our current situation as a welfare state it is not healthy to allow people who appear to have nothing to offer or better this country should not be allowed entry. On the other hand, illegal immigration has been used as a synonomous term for Mexican immigration and while obviously that is where the majority of the problem lies..... there are others throughout the world who do have much to offer this country. My biggest gripe with Mexican immigrants like you said is that (be prepared for the following generalization) they seem to not assimilate or embrace the culture/language/ and customs of this country and diss this system that is facilitating their idleness. If someone wants to immigrate to this country to make a better life for themselves and their family, and are willing to work hard and not complain about our system, but are willing to contribute and participate in the system and be neighborly as well as learn the language and be productive, I'd rather have them than the lazy liberal un-patriotic idiots who have lived here for generations and are tossing away our freedoms like garbage. So what I'm saying is that we need to reform our immigration laws to better facilitate the entry of those who will benefit and contribute to the United States.
ReplyDeleteLet me make a suggestions GWH so as to help clear up your frustrations and confusions. I was not commenting or rebutting anyone's argument including your words. I was simply sharing my opinion on the issue of illegal immigration and the way politicians "deal" with the issue. Nothing more, nothing less.
ReplyDeleteI know you want to think that everything I write has something to do with you, but it doesn't. I am simply trying to share my opinion without commentary or judgment of your thoughts on the issue. No attack on your views was given, and none was implied. If it was taken that way I am sorry.